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gayyyyk
Senior Member
Russian
- Sep 29, 2018
- #1
Hello ! Do we say “the individual” with plural or singular ? Meaning not one person but a lot of (the individual = individuals)
lingobingo
Senior Member
London
English - England
- Sep 29, 2018
- #2
That doesn’t make much sense. An individual is a/one person, and it takes a singular verb. If you’re referring to a number of individuals, then of course you have to use a plural verb.
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gayyyyk
Senior Member
Russian
- Sep 29, 2018
- #3
lingobingo said:
That doesn’t make much sense. An individual is a/one person, and it takes a singular verb. If you’re referring to a number of individuals, then of course you have to use a plural verb.
But when I am referring to a number of individulas saying “
the individual” ? Should I use a plural verb (with “the individual”)?
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gayyyyk
Senior Member
Russian
- Sep 29, 2018
- #4
lingobingo said:
That doesn’t make much sense. An individual is a/one person, and it takes a singular verb. If you’re referring to a number of individuals, then of course you have to use a plural verb.
Is it like with “the unemployed” ? Should we use plural with “the unemployed” ?
lingobingo
Senior Member
London
English - England
- Sep 29, 2018
- #5
I see what you mean. No you don’t use a plural verb when using a singular noun, even when you mean it in a collective way, i.e. the individual/the unemployed = individuals/unemployed people in general.
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gayyyyk
Senior Member
Russian
- Sep 29, 2018
- #6
lingobingo said:
I see what you mean. No you don’t use a plural verb when using a singular noun, even when you mean it in a collective way, i.e. the individual/the unemployed = individuals/unemployed people in general.
Thanks a lot
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gayyyyk
Senior Member
Russian
- Sep 29, 2018
- #7
lingobingo said:
I see what you mean. No you don’t use a plural verb when using a singular noun, even when you mean it in a collective way, i.e. the individual/the unemployed = individuals/unemployed people in general.
So which way we say “the unemployed/ the unemployed individual is /are unhappy people” ?
AnythingGoes
Senior Member
English - USA (Midwest/Appalachia)
- Sep 29, 2018
- #8
You'd say the unemployed are unhappy but the unemployed individual is unhappy.
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gayyyyk
Senior Member
Russian
- Sep 29, 2018
- #9
AnythingGoes said:
You'd say the unemployed are unhappy but the unemployed individual is unhappy.
Why ? What’s the difference ? But the meaning is the same ?
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gayyyyk
Senior Member
Russian
- Sep 29, 2018
- #10
AnythingGoes said:
You'd say the unemployed are unhappy but the unemployed individual is unhappy.
lingobingo said:
I see what you mean. No you don’t use a plural verb when using a singular noun, even when you mean it in a collective way, i.e. the individual/the unemployed = individuals/unemployed people in general.
Please explain , I don’t understand .. we use a plural verb with “the unemployed” and a singular with “the individual”?
lingobingo
Senior Member
London
English - England
- Sep 29, 2018
- #11
Sorry, sorry! My post #5 was wrong.
The employed/the unemployed/the rich/the poor/the young/the old, etc. — these all refer to people of a certain type and they all take a plural verb.
But the individual takes a singular verb, even though it refers to individuals in general.
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gayyyyk
Senior Member
Russian
- Sep 29, 2018
- #12
lingobingo said:
Sorry, sorry! My post #5 was wrong.
The employed/the unemployed/the rich/the poor/the young/the old, etc. — these all refer to people of a certain type and they all take a plural verb.
But the individual takes a singular verb, even though it refers to individuals in general.
Thanks
dojibear
Senior Member
Fresno CA
English (US - northeast)
- Sep 29, 2018
- #13
When thinking about this topic, I use the two bold terms below to keep the ideas clear.
Sometimes we use a singular noun as a collective noun (to mean a group of people). As the posts above say, it takes a plural verb.
Other times we use a singular noun as an example of all similar people or things. Then it takes a singular verb:
A banana tree grows very rapidly. (all banana trees grow rapidly)
A dog cannot see colors. (no dogs can see colors)
Did Jesus say that a rich man can't get into heaven?
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