The individual (plural or singular) (2025)

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gayyyyk

Senior Member

Russian

  • Sep 29, 2018
  • #1

Hello ! Do we say “the individual” with plural or singular ? Meaning not one person but a lot of (the individual = individuals)

  • lingobingo

    Senior Member

    London

    English - England

    • Sep 29, 2018
    • #2

    That doesn’t make much sense. An individual is a/one person, and it takes a singular verb. If you’re referring to a number of individuals, then of course you have to use a plural verb.

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    gayyyyk

    Senior Member

    Russian

    • Sep 29, 2018
    • #3

    lingobingo said:

    That doesn’t make much sense. An individual is a/one person, and it takes a singular verb. If you’re referring to a number of individuals, then of course you have to use a plural verb.

    But when I am referring to a number of individulas saying “

    the individual

    ” ? Should I use a plural verb (with “the individual”)?

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    gayyyyk

    Senior Member

    Russian

    • Sep 29, 2018
    • #4

    lingobingo said:

    That doesn’t make much sense. An individual is a/one person, and it takes a singular verb. If you’re referring to a number of individuals, then of course you have to use a plural verb.

    Is it like with “the unemployed” ? Should we use plural with “the unemployed” ?

    lingobingo

    Senior Member

    London

    English - England

    • Sep 29, 2018
    • #5

    I see what you mean. No you don’t use a plural verb when using a singular noun, even when you mean it in a collective way, i.e. the individual/the unemployed = individuals/unemployed people in general.

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    gayyyyk

    Senior Member

    Russian

    • Sep 29, 2018
    • #6

    lingobingo said:

    I see what you mean. No you don’t use a plural verb when using a singular noun, even when you mean it in a collective way, i.e. the individual/the unemployed = individuals/unemployed people in general.

    Thanks a lot

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    gayyyyk

    Senior Member

    Russian

    • Sep 29, 2018
    • #7

    lingobingo said:

    I see what you mean. No you don’t use a plural verb when using a singular noun, even when you mean it in a collective way, i.e. the individual/the unemployed = individuals/unemployed people in general.

    So which way we say “the unemployed/ the unemployed individual is /are unhappy people” ?

    AnythingGoes

    Senior Member

    English - USA (Midwest/Appalachia)

    • Sep 29, 2018
    • #8

    You'd say the unemployed are unhappy but the unemployed individual is unhappy.

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    gayyyyk

    Senior Member

    Russian

    • Sep 29, 2018
    • #9

    AnythingGoes said:

    You'd say the unemployed are unhappy but the unemployed individual is unhappy.

    Why ? What’s the difference ? But the meaning is the same ?

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    gayyyyk

    Senior Member

    Russian

    • Sep 29, 2018
    • #10

    AnythingGoes said:

    You'd say the unemployed are unhappy but the unemployed individual is unhappy.

    lingobingo said:

    I see what you mean. No you don’t use a plural verb when using a singular noun, even when you mean it in a collective way, i.e. the individual/the unemployed = individuals/unemployed people in general.

    Please explain , I don’t understand .. we use a plural verb with “the unemployed” and a singular with “the individual”?

    lingobingo

    Senior Member

    London

    English - England

    • Sep 29, 2018
    • #11

    Sorry, sorry! My post #5 was wrong. The individual (plural or singular) (5)

    The employed/the unemployed/the rich/the poor/the young/the old, etc. — these all refer to people of a certain type and they all take a plural verb.

    But the individual takes a singular verb, even though it refers to individuals in general.

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    gayyyyk

    Senior Member

    Russian

    • Sep 29, 2018
    • #12

    lingobingo said:

    Sorry, sorry! My post #5 was wrong. The individual (plural or singular) (6)

    The employed/the unemployed/the rich/the poor/the young/the old, etc. — these all refer to people of a certain type and they all take a plural verb.

    But the individual takes a singular verb, even though it refers to individuals in general.

    Thanks

    dojibear

    Senior Member

    Fresno CA

    English (US - northeast)

    • Sep 29, 2018
    • #13

    When thinking about this topic, I use the two bold terms below to keep the ideas clear.

    Sometimes we use a singular noun as a collective noun (to mean a group of people). As the posts above say, it takes a plural verb.

    Other times we use a singular noun as an example of all similar people or things. Then it takes a singular verb:

    A banana tree grows very rapidly. (all banana trees grow rapidly)
    A dog cannot see colors. (no dogs can see colors)
    Did Jesus say that a rich man can't get into heaven?

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